The Final Countdown: 2012 Winter Transfer Window
The European transfer window closes at midnight on January 31. Villarreal has not confirmed any moves to its 'A' team, aside from the promotion of Gonzalo Castellani. The 'B' team has seen significant changes, with a number of players moving on and the arrival of Argentine midfielder Fernando Barrientos.
Brazilian striker Nilmar's long-rumored move to São Paulo FC may have hit a snag, while Mexican international Giovani dos Santos may remain at Tottenham Hotspur. Other names have emerged to reinforce our depleted strike force-- particularly with the injury to Marco Ruben-- while further departures appear unlikely. But Srs. Roig and Llaneza have been known to spring a surprise or two in the final hours. Ikechukwu Uche over the summer, for one.
Rumored targets:Out: Nilmar (São Paulo), Borja Valero (Atlético Madrid, Málaga).
In: John Carew (West Ham United), dos Santos (Tottenham), Vicente Iborra (Levante), Alejandro Martinuccio (Fluminense), Uche (Granada), Nikola Zigic (Birmingham City).
We'll keep you posted on the latest developments. Share rumors, recommendations, and transfers in the comments.
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Our other Porto nemesis
Guarin to Inter. Is he worth JdeGuz + 3MM? You bet.
http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/colombiano-freddy-guarin-refuerzo-inter/20120130dasdasftb_72/Tes
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 6:48 AM CET reply actions
Inter has made some good deals
this is certainly one of them
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 AM CET up reply actions
And the funniest headline
For a match that never occurred. Comment #29 is the first correct answer.
http://www.marca.com/2012/01/22/futbol/equipos/villarrealb/1327233462.html
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 6:48 AM CET reply actions
WTF? Why are we doing that???
weaken the B, strengthen an opponent, and sell a promising prospect for peanuts? I’m not happy.
Well, I said he was ready for the Primera…..
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 11:34 AM CET up reply actions
I think it's for the player.
Gullon deserved an opportunity in the Primera. And he wasn’t getting it here, for whatever. Hope he proves himself and then comes back to succeed. Great kid, great attitude.
Best of luck, Marcos. Soon our management will appreciate your value.
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 5:41 PM CET up reply actions
sounds more suited to England, perhaps?
just saying based on what’s here, I haven’t seen him play.
OK—so with Gullon leaving, does that tell us anything about anything? I have this strange feeling that either things are going much worse than we realize behind the scenes, or else there is something we aren’t expecting going to be announced shortly before the deadline. I fear the former, but hope the latter.
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 12:20 PM CET up reply actions
Sure that
Gio won’t be joining us…
To many want him.
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM CET reply actions
in other news
Preciado has been sacked as manager of Sporting. Just announced.
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That's sad
Did you see Sid Lowe’s article yesterday?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/30/manolo-preciado-survivor-sporting-gijon
yes, I did
and it is sad. But their last couple of matches he had that look of a man who expected the sack, I thought. A bit like Garrido his last couple of matches, he was less animated than usual and seemed resigned to his fate. Will be curious to see what happens next.
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another name coming up we're interested in is this young fellow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Castaignos
a promising player, but only 19. Scored bundles of goals for Feyonoord last year. Presumably Inter would loan him; of course they just signed Freddy Guarin as noted above
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never heard of martinuccio before
played in 14 matches of 38 last season (428minutes) and scored 1 goal. 24 years old and what i read his main attribute is his speed. transfermarkt says his value is 2m€
I saw him play in the Copa Libertadores for Penarol
he is a good prospect but I think we need an experienced player upfront like Zigic or Carew.
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 1:30 PM CET up reply actions
24 years old
is he a prospect anymore? should be dominating brazilian league in that age :)
by Bill Lumbergh on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM CET up reply actions
maybe he's a late bloomer, looking at his resume
played in Primera B Metropolitana at age 20, then a couple of years with Penarol. A small guy, but fast, and I think less fragile than Nilmar
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM CET up reply actions
I think that
Roma will buy him.
They are selling David Pizarro, to City, so they will have some cash to splash around.
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM CET up reply actions
rumor in Italy is Lazio!
who knows?
as for Gullon, official site has something about it. I’m really not sure what this is—a loan, a sale with a provision for a buyback (much like we did with Santi and Recre years ago), or what. Apparently no money has changed hands but we get €100k if he plays in 10 games or more. Seems crazy to me
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 2:05 PM CET up reply actions
Lazio have given us an offer for Nilmar
half an hour ago—no idea what it is
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 3:06 PM CET up reply actions
this is what's going to happen
they offer something like 8m, we take it since it’s so late, we are panicking and will offer it all to spurs for gio.
we end up selling nilmar too cheap and pay overprice for gio like we did with jdeguz.
by Bill Lumbergh on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM CET up reply actions
At this point,
I don’t think there is a “too cheap” for Nilmar. I know we are short on strikers, but based on the current situation and a look at history, I do not see Nilmar being productive in our system. I think that if he is left to sit on the bench, his value only drops.
While I do not knwo if we have gotten 4m in value for him over the last few years (the drop from 12m to 8m), taking that much loss on him doesn’t seem to be the end of the world, considering the value he has brought both in terms of name recognition and his period of success, although fleeting.
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that's true
still it would quite dissapointing to get “only” 8m. last summer rumors valued him somewhere around 17m. transfermarkt values him 20m, which is clearly overprice but still.
by Bill Lumbergh on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM CET up reply actions
Nilmar is one of those conundrums...
Tremendous skill, but terribly injury-prone. With his injuries, no club can seriously believe he is going to live up to his potential. While he could arguably still be in the 10-15m range, a deal like that would be pretty shocking to me.
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i think transfermarkt is way off here
given his injury record. I’d like to get 10m for him but hey 8m is better than nothing. Problem is I don’t think Tottenham are going to let Gio leave anyway, so I’d rather see us bring in two people—a Zigic-type experienced goalscorer with La Liga experience, and the Argentine ex-Peñarol guy who gives us speed as a second striker.
But the longer things go without anything firm happening, the more pessimistic I am becoming.
Supposedly Granada want the young Brazilian who was mentioned in the Nilmar article yesterday
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 3:47 PM CET up reply actions
latest is whatever the offer was, we said NO
I think either he moves to Brazil or we’re stuck with him—and I’m beginning to suspect the latter.
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 3:51 PM CET up reply actions
Official site link for Gullon
Sounds like a buyback to me.
http://villarrealcf.es/en/news/portada/item/232-marcos-gull%C3%B3n-me-voy-muy-agradecido-al-villarreal
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 5:37 PM CET up reply actions
more B team exits
Jordi Pablo to Atletico Madrid B
Airam will be moved as well, several teams interested incl. Ponferradina
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Airam likely to Cordoba is latest
but everything changes every five minutes anyway I’m going to check back in another couple of hours by which time everything is likely to have changed again. 9 1/2 hours to go roughly
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 2:20 PM CET up reply actions
ignaciomorgan Ignacio Morgan by javimatagil
“Andrés Robles, de Wanderers, está en España, probándose en el Villarreal. Ojalá no le caguen la carrera como a Matías Fernández y Vidangossy
55 minutes ago”
yeah, he would be a very young (18) Gullon for the B, would he not?
I know nothing about him but transfermarkt says he is a defensive midfielder.
Also note the response to that tweet from some Chilean (I guess) who hates our guts. Ah well.
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apparently (if I read this right) this guy has been working out with us?
http://www.prensafutbol.cl/nacionales-s-wanderers/25514-ise-queda-en-espana-robles-a-prueba-en-el-villarreal.html#.TygNDruGpNk.twitter
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 5:31 PM CET up reply actions
That's what the tweet says
“Probandose” would be on trial.
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 5:37 PM CET up reply actions
EPM articles of interest
they still seem optimistic Nilmar is going to Brazil (and note the deal does NOT have to conclude today, as the Brazilian transfer deadline is longer):
http://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/las-posturas-entre-sao-paulo-y-nilmar-cada-vez-mas-proximas_714601.html
and meanwhile it does look as though Martinaccio is our first choice with Tottenham refusing to deal Gio:
http://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/el-submarino-negocia-con-lsquo-flu-rsquo-por-punta-argentino-martinuccio_714603.html
which doesn’t really solve anything for this weekend does it? Apparently Negredo will miss the game for Sevilla with an injury, so maybe both teams will play a 4-6-0 :)
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yeah, I know it's goal.com
but here’s their summary of the current Villarreal movements in the transfer market, or lack thereof:
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I'm wrong about Gullon
His contract was rescinded. Wonder if we got a dime.
http://www.marca.com/2012/01/31/futbol/equipos/racing/1328018724.html?
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 5:50 PM CET reply actions
From Racing
most unlikely! Although there are some reports that it is for 100.000 euros should he play 12 matches. However if a contract is rescinded surely you walk free and can choose where to go.
yes, not everything is fitting together
what i’ve seen is it’s for the rest of this season, all of the next, with an ‘option’ for another year. And I’ve seen the same as Kenez about the appearance fee.
If we rescinded his contract, there must be something behind the scenes we don’t know about. I could see loaning him since we have lots of midfielders in the A team, but letting him walk for nothing seems very strange indeed.
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM CET up reply actions
Valencia has found a sponsor
2MM/year, it seems. That could pay the bills.
http://www.rtvv.es/va/esports/futbol/Jinko-Solar-nou-patrocinador-Valencia_0_637736299.html
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM CET reply actions
and a Chinese company, too.
it’s a junky logo, but 2MM is always helpful…
But hey, we have 80,000 Chinese following us on weibo!
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 6:25 PM CET up reply actions
Nilmar is definitely NOT going to Lazio
rumored they offered €9MM, but if I know my Italian football clubs it would probably have been payable over 3-4 years. And I don’t know if there would have been time to agree on salary and image rights anyhow.
Sao Paolo twitter says Nilmar is “nearly there”.
4 1/2 hrs (more or less) to go, I’m guessing we get one player in and Nilmar leaves. If you haven’t already voted in our poll….
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we have a signing (for the B team): on loan, it's Esteban Orfano
El ·#Villarreal CF incorpora al mediocampista Esteban Orfano, cedido por Boca Juniors hasta final de temporada, para su filial de Segunda A
Orfano is from Argentina, he’s 20 years old, a midfielder and a youth international. Welcome!
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Made two cameos in 2011
Right-sided midfielder. Worth a flier if Velazquez doesn’t like what he has. And that seems quite clear, based on the volume of players offloaded.
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM CET up reply actions
Another small-built midfielder
Best description I could find was on Wiki. Shocker.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esteban_Orfano
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 7:32 PM CET up reply actions
yes, we seem to have decided to make some changes for sure
and mostly players who haven’t come up through our system, except for Gullon (a big except). Kike Lopez, Jordi Pablo, etc.
Now if we could just move Kiko Olivas to Celta :)
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B team guys still with us, but probably not much longer: Airam, Dervite, Mano
Airam looked likely for Cordoba, Dervite perhaps for Auxerre, Mano no idea.
So now Tottenham have Louis Saha, they are getting Rodallega (apparently), yet won’t sell Gio. He’s gonna forget where the pitch is.
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but it
seems like they are selling Pav.
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 8:13 PM CET up reply actions
reports we are negotiating for Zigic from birmigham
maybe he could get on the end of Joan Oriol’s crosses!! the tall dude had some great seasons at Racing, 31 yrs old. Playing in the English Championship for Birmingham City, currently 7th.
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and it's announced Airam is heading to Cordoba
no surprise after he hasn’t featured for B of late
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Martinuccio is announced, on loan from Fluminense
I really like this signing, frankly. I liked him in the Copa Libertadores. Needs a chance to prove himself.
more like this, please:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8sfUZKRlPA
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yes... finally...
we get someone for the A-team
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM CET up reply actions
I am happy with that
some support…makes a huge difference.
but yes, another would be nice.
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Nilmar--nothing new
Victor Franch (Onda Cero Castellon) says there won’t be anything new today. So I guess we wait….
so at the moment OFFICIALLY we have Martinuccio on loan for the A team plus Esteban Orfano for the B team
we appear to be trying to get Zigic, perhaps on loan as well (and if no luck there, I expect we may try for Carew since those two were bracketed together earlier).
and there is also the Chilean youngster Robles who was working out with us, would be B team help as well if he comes
unless Tottenham suddenly comes to their senses and accepts our offer for Gio, that may be it.
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It we get
Carew or Zigic, it looks good. lets see what happens…
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 8:43 PM CET up reply actions
official site is right on our new loanee
BTW, Juan Arango (GOL TV in US, covers South American futbol and loves the Copa Libertadores) likes him, says he has “great movement, pace”. I’m excited about this one.
(still disappointed we didn’t go for Sebastian Coates last summer, though….oh well, the time to get him cheap was before the Copa America)
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allen, could you write a post?
Since you know him better than I. Then bump this thread back to the top. Also submit the new post on the main sbnation soccer page. Thanks.
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 PM CET via mobile up reply actions
done and done. cheers.
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 9:50 PM CET up reply actions
none announced on the official site, at least
would be nice to have, wouldn’t assume anything either way at this point
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 9:03 PM CET up reply actions
meanwhile, Granada have signed Henrique from Sao Paolo
I guess he’ll head off to Italy in a year or two, then.
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striker from penarol
assuming there is no dos santos, I don’t think it has anything to do with the signing of Martinuccio…all Tottenham and Harry Redknapp.
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It is the way it is...
Spurs can afford to keep him, and we can’t afford to pay to get him…
Spurs are doing well right now 2-0 against wigan…. GO spurs.
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 9:42 PM CET up reply actions
OK, there is a brief writeup about Martinuccio now posted.
I think if Tottenham came to their senses and allowed us to sign Gio for a reasonable price, we would still do it. But they don’t seem willing to. I don’t see any way Dos Santos is getting off the Spurs bench until the summer.
We’re still out there apparently looking for another, but it has been reported that we are keeping Nilmar until the end of the season. According to canal fichajes:
Villareal: Nilmar se queda, al menos, hasta final de temporada.
they’ve been pretty accurate with stuff, but it would help if they could spell our name right
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Thanks, buddy
Always coming through in the clutch.
We need another body. Nilmar might be here in body, but what about in spirit? You’d think it’s a ticking clock, but he does need to score goals…
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 9:54 PM CET up reply actions
ok, that's what I heard about Tottenham
they sold Pav to Lokomotiv Moscow for 9M, that will be almost a net loss of 10M,
they are willing to sell Pav for cheaper price but not for Gio?
they probably think they'll get more offers for Gio in the summer
while Pav, not so much?
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BTW Mirandes game is beginning
what an atmosphere. Streams on rojadirecta, the bilbanita one is in HD
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Joan Capdevila
Onda Cero speculating he may be signed by Espanyol. I had heard the rumor earlier, they’ve been really good at getting some cheap deals this window
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Don't look now...
… but Zigic had 4 goals in 70 minutes on the pitch today for Birmingham City. Methinks his price just went up a fair bit….
oops. it always happens, doesn't it.
remember we nearly had Adrián earlier this season, then he scored a couple and Atleti decided to keep him?
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by Allen Dodson on Jan 31, 2012 11:01 PM CET up reply actions
A full breakdown of Villarreal B
2 loans in, 8 departures, 1 loan out, 5 promotions.
http://villarrealcf.es/en/news/portada/item/235-altas-y-bajas-del-villarreal-b
Net change: -2. Take a breath.
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 10:46 PM CET reply actions
It's just not about that.
They want a certain figure and won’t settle for less. The player be damned. I’m glad we don’t conduct business like them.
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by siempre_riquelme on Jan 31, 2012 11:34 PM CET up reply actions
Still hope that we don't get dos santos...
he has low moral, shows late up for practice, been partying alot… Sounds like someone we know?? Cicinho, was’t far off…
He played for Ipswich, without success… and would say that La Liga, is levels above Championship in UK.
Let him take another drink in London.
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Jan 31, 2012 11:35 PM CET reply actions
I had low morale and drank too much, too...
…when I was 21 years old and my talents were underutilized at work.
Villarreal would be a much better fit for Gio’s playing style than Ipswich, to say nothing of the cultural fit.
I still Drink too much...
But I don’t earn millions on my talent, and my work don’t get affected on it!!
by Jens Kristian Nielsen on Feb 1, 2012 7:35 AM CET up reply actions
Midnight in Spain
Has come and gone. Let’s see if any straggler deals are revealed in the next hour or two.
If I recall correctly, the Uche deal came in “after” the deadline. I’m still holding out for another striker. Nilmar is as good as gone, in my mind.
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by siempre_riquelme on Feb 1, 2012 12:07 AM CET reply actions
we'll see, but overall a quiet transfer day in La Liga
El Pais has their take on this here:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Ajuste/Liga/elpepudep/20120131elpepudep_13/Tes
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