Villarreal and Jonathan de Guzmán: The Final Hours
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 30, 2011 11:30 PM CEST
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We're down to the last 24 hours before the summer transfer window closes. And Villarreal still has not replaced playmaker Santi Cazorla. After our performances in Odense and at Camp Nou, you would think something has to give.
Some of our erstwhile targets are now off the market: Michael Bradley (Chievo), Albert Crusat (Wigan), Fernando Gago (Roma, loan), Diego Lugano (PSG), Bryan Ruiz (Fulham).
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But all is not lost: Jonathan de Guzmán and Joan Verdú are still out there. Mallorca and Espanyol, respectively, would be scrambling to find a replacement at this stage, but that's not our problem. The Champions League and a top-four finish in La Liga are Villarreal's concerns.
The latest rumors below the fold:
Jonathan de Guzmán (Mallorca): He's leaving for 7.5 million, says one local source (h/t Bill Lumbergh). He won't go for less than 8 million (+2 million to the player), says the island club (h/t Bill Lumbergh). His agent is talking to our favorite source. The player says he wants to leave. Sr. Roig, unsurprisingly, is being coy (more on that article to come).
Joan Verdú (Espanyol): An offer is in for 4.5 million, says a Barcelona-based newspaper. That's reportedly a higher percentage profit than Dani Osvaldo's move to Roma (350%, I believe). The Espanyol brass is meeting to discuss the offer, but another big sale may alienate their fans.
Our Needs: Both an attacking midfielder and a defender. Frankly, our defense might be weaker than our ability to create chances going forward.
So I'm a bit worried that no defenders' names have been bandied about. Hopefully something is in the works. Else we may get hammered by the goalscorers in Group A: Mario Gómez; Sergio Agüero, Edin Dzeko; Edinson Cavani.
It should be an interesting 24 hours. Stay tuned for further updates.
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No chance for us, right?
Yossi Benayoun, Chelsea want-away:
http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2011/8/30/2394150/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news-2011-yossi-benayoun
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 30, 2011 11:37 PM CEST reply actions
Mallorca and Villareal are waiting for the other guy to blink
Mallorca need to get as much cash as possible but Villarreal don’t want to pay the €8 million that would get De Guzman. What’s going on over there, anyway? Pedro León could be on his way back to Getafe and Atlético Madrid have managed to wrangle a loan for Diego while Villarreal have been quiet in the transfer market. Is Roig saving his money for a rainy day?
i'm surprised nothing is happening too
i figured once we qualified for Europe we’d try to close for de Guzman and maybe chase someone else as well. I certainly support fiscal responsibility but Valencia transformed Mata’s money into Piatti, Canales and had some left, we are still sitting on ours.
And yes, Coates (see below) was one of my favorites. At least he’s going to a team I like.
Endavant Villarreal!!
by Allen Dodson on Aug 31, 2011 2:55 AM CEST up reply actions
Surprised
I’ve been away for 10 days and surprised to see on my return that this deal is still going to the wire. The club do not appear to have been very decisive in the market this summer.And can someone explain why we are signing Uche now if we don’t intend to play him until next season when he will be 28 years old. Surely we should be looking for younger talent.
Another of Allen's favorites
Uruguayan defender Coates to Liverpool:
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2011/8/30/2394311/liverpool-transfer-news-rumours-2011-sebastian-coates/in/2157413
We spent that money on Zapata, oh well.
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 12:14 AM CEST reply actions
Hey guys
Apologies for taking the thread off-topic (obligatory on-point comment: as a Canadian, I’m bitter towards De Guzman; as a Toronto FC fan, if he’s anything like his brother, you’d be better off missing out.)
I happen to be in Villareal on September 14 and would love to go to the Bayern Munich game. The ticket buying process is, unfortunately, a bit of a mystery to me.
Do any of you guys have experience doing it? Any ideas on how to cut through things and ensure that I can get a pair for the game other than feeding the scalpers?
Many thanks.
Tyler
€5M for Uche? €8M for De Guzman?
If this is true it looks like we are overpaying for players as the deadline approaches, in my opinion. But hey, it happens.
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we've always liked uche
Tried to get him before he went to zaragoza. Fast and athletic for sure, but he’s a step down in quality from our current striking trio.
Reading between the lines, he’s a rossi/nilmar replacement. Particularly if we crash out of europe and thus one goes in january. epm said uche would go on loan immediately.
Let the speculation begin.
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 6:42 AM CEST via mobile up reply actions
Verdu not for sale
According to EPM Espanyol have turned down the offer from Villarreal.
http://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/el-espanyol-no-vende-a-verdu_680947.html
Uche arrives and goes out to Granada.
Radio Aragon confirm this lunchtime the departure of Uche from Zaragoza to Villarreal.
http://www.marca.com/2011/08/31/futbol/equipos/granada/1314796157.html
Ii could see him
as a Nilmar replacement, but not a Rossi replacement. If Rossi goes next year, we will need someone else for sure.
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there are apparently
rumors that he could be on his way from villarreal to mallorca, re: de guzman. i dont know.
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mallorca made us find a player for them before they would agree on de guzman? :D
by Bill Lumbergh on Aug 31, 2011 5:20 PM CEST up reply actions
i think that is the gist of it
all i know is, if he is the only option, we have to buy him. verdu has fallen through. there do not appear to be any other available options.
does anyone know off the top of their heads if Villarreal have used up their non-EU quotient?
Wikipedia says that Ruben, Zapta, Perez, and Nilmar all are missing EU passports. Is that right?
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and my question
about eu passports did nto have to do with uche or de guzman, but the slightest of slight hopes that we might get some additional defensive cover, perhaps from South America.
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i don't think that's correct
Zapata played long enough in Italy to count as EU I thought
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by Allen Dodson on Aug 31, 2011 5:54 PM CEST up reply actions
Must be wrong
By definition, since all of them are on the A team. Ruben has been here a while too. Nilmar and Perez surely are foreigners.
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by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 6:03 PM CEST up reply actions
Deal for De Guzman agreed if
Mallorca can find a replacement in the few remaining hours.
http://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/deportes/de-guzman-se-ira-villarreal-si-mallorca-le-encuentra-sustituto_681072.html
Our squad for Lorca
Porteros: Diego López y César.
Defensas: Mario, Mano, Carlos Tomás, Gonzalo, Musacchio, Dervite, Joan Oriol, Catalá y Marchena.
Centrocampistas: Nico, Bruno, Marcos Gullón, Cani, Kike López, Wakaso, Borja Valero y Camuñas.
Delanteros: Nilmar, Marco Ruben y Gerard.
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 6:21 PM CEST reply actions
Walking wounded / internationals
Injured: Ángel, Senna.
Call-ups: Hernán Pérez (Paraguay), Rossi (Italy), Zapata (Colombia).
Not good to see Senna miss out. Hope it’s just precautionary…
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by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 6:22 PM CEST up reply actions
So he's giving up his share
Per the Kenez story, 8 million to Mallorca. 20% player’s share is renounced. Works for me. But how are we paying more for de Guzman than for Borja? Strange days, these.
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by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 6:38 PM CEST reply actions
remember that Borja came from West Brom
and they were pretty much viewing him as someone not central to their future plans.
Yeah, we are overpaying for De Guzman but he’s probably worth €6-6.5M anyway
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by Allen Dodson on Aug 31, 2011 7:24 PM CEST up reply actions
will any1 think of
placing Bruno as LB if De Guzman is signed?
I know it sacrifies some toughness on the midfield but discounting Oriol only Bruno had played that position, I have not much confidence about Jose Catala and Wakaso yet
Bruno was so good in central midfield, I think not
though I wonder— if we move him to LB and he does well, would he get a callup for the national side at that position?
Might depend on if Senna plays or not. If Senna is out I think we have to have Bruno in the middle
Endavant Villarreal!!
what I think is
when Oriol and Mario play together, they cannot provide much support on the flank, such as keeping pocession and sending good crosses, and even their defensive issues are not well done as well (at least atm), so putting Bruno in LB until Angel is back can prevent this problem
My Russian chess-playing friend has a point :)
You want your best XI out there. And the midfield has not shown enough going forward at the moment. So what about Bruno at LB, Borja and de Guzman as CMs, and then Perez / Wakaso / Cani on the wings? Would add speed and flair.
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by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 8:09 PM CEST up reply actions
De Guzman is in Villarreal now
Balearics radio/TV reporting he is signing for Villarreal (everyone practice your Catalan)
Guillem Balague reporting it on twitter as well, thinks it is a great signing
Endavant Villarreal!!
We were scooped
Though it’s still all unclear to me:
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2011/8/31/2396096/villarreal-ikechukwu-uche-zaragoza-granada/in/2157413
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 8:25 PM CEST reply actions
Confirmation now on Facebook
De Guzman signed for five seasons and to be presented on Friday.
And same with Uche
Four years, to Granada this season.
Post to come shortly. For now, we can rejoice?
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Aug 31, 2011 9:18 PM CEST reply actions
ok, now it ends up
having no Santi’s replacement, so just hope that Hernan Perez will explode his talent?
(no comment about Jordi Pablo as I never saw his performance, but Perez @ Copa America proved that he has the ability to step up in comparison)
i really hope
Perez can get some minutes. whether it’s been with Villarreal of the Paraguay national team, when I see this kid play I can tell that he has “the fire in the belly.” For some reason it seems like he ended up on Garrido’s shit list, i don’t know if that has to do with taking too long a vacation after Copa America ended?
yeah i wondered about that too
but you know, Oriol was on that list most of last year and now he’s shown what he can do.
I really like Perez as well.
Endavant Villarreal!!
by Allen Dodson on Sep 1, 2011 1:35 AM CEST up reply actions
jdeguz Jonathan De Guzman
It’s official!! I now play for Villarreal! Vamos!
15 minutes ago
http://twitter.com/#!/JdeGuz
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i am very very very happy today!!!!!!!!!
my starting XI
————diego lopez————
mario-zapata-musacchio-oriol
-—————bruno—————-
-—cani——————-borja—-
-————de guzman————
-——nilmar———rossi———
by Bill Lumbergh on Aug 31, 2011 10:38 PM CEST reply actions
I certainly do
I like the diamond, Borja is so much better on the wing.
Was hoping for one more player for this year but oh well. We at least have De Guzman, whom we really wanted, and we are setting the stage for next year (I imagine) with the Uche signing.
Will be interesting to see how our loanees—Montero, Uche—fare this year.
Endavant Villarreal!!
by Allen Dodson on Sep 1, 2011 1:34 AM CEST up reply actions
Video from RTVV
Some words in English from De Guzman
http://www.rtvv.es/va/esports/Despres-moltes-negociacions-guzman-groguet_0_545945480.html
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