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Joselu is back; another game riding the pine for Kike López?

The league table does not make for pretty reading for Villarreal B. Jose Molina's men have won once in their last nine matches, albeit a sterling come-from-behind home triumph over high-flying Almería. But consistent results are the order of survival in the Segunda.

A Friday evening visit to UD Las Palmas on the Canary Islands is a daunting prospect, both with the travel on a short week and the club's imposing 30,000-seat stadium. And I recall attacking midfielder Jonathan Viera tearing us apart last season in a Friday night home fixture at the Ciudad Deportiva. Ojo.

But the islanders' form has also been poor, and they have not played with their typical flowing football. Sounds familiar. Molina expects some gaps in the back, and former Tenerife players Iriome and Airam Cabrera would like nothing more than to score against their island rivals. Extra motivation.

Star-divide

A few changes, as always, in Molina's squad:

Keepers: Diego Mariño, Jorge.
Defenders: Kiko Olivas, Joan Truyols, Toño, Carlos Tomás, Mano, Pere Martínez.
Midfielders: Gonzalo Castellani, Lucas Porcar, Dutra, Marcos Gullón, Iriome, Toribio, Llorente.
Forwards: Kike López, Airam, Joselu Moreno.

Florian Lejeune and Jaume Costa (his debut!) are with the 'A' team, and Joan Truyols makes a long-awaited return from injury. And Molina continues with his rotations, omitting a number of regulars from the squad altogether.

The match begins at 3 pm Eastern Time, and streams are likely. Let's avoid a repeat of last season's Friday night massacre. And maybe even win in blue. Endavant minisubmarino!

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Friday nights

have not been good to watch. I have no records but I don’t remember us doing very well when we’ve played Friday night.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 8:42 PM CET reply actions  

Line up confirmed

VILLARREAL B:
Mariño;
Pere, Carlos Tomás, Kiko, Toño;
Marcos Gullón, Llorente, Kike López, Castellani;
Joselu & Airam.

Kike Lopez starts

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 PM CET reply actions  

Good jinx for him, I guess.

Sort of a 4-3-3? Very ambitious away from home. And the back four was always going to be an adventure without Lejeune and Costa.

Go for goals, then. I admire it, even if potentially foolhardy.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 8:58 PM CET up reply actions  

dodgy back four....

it looks to me. Midfield gives more hope.
This is our third Friday game this season. The other two were at home, a 3-2 win over Nastic and a 2-2 draw with Huesca, I think it was?
Our last away match on a Friday night was a 3-0 loss to Granada in May.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 8:52 PM CET reply actions  

I thought

that we lost away at Betis on a Friday night as well.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 8:58 PM CET up reply actions  

we lost to Salamanca, I remember...and Xerez....

would have to check about Betis

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:01 PM CET up reply actions  

this is going to be difficult to follow...

Las Palmas are in yellow shirts with blue shorts, Villarreal is wearing blue shirts and yellow shorts!!

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:02 PM CET reply actions  

Gullon with an obvious yellow on 9'

so far we have not done much

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:12 PM CET reply actions  

Joselu just wide in 12'

Tono to Airam, then headed to back post. A let-off.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:14 PM CET reply actions  

Home goal ruled offside in 13'

Dubiously in our favor?

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:16 PM CET reply actions  

I don't think it was a square pass

it looked slightly forward to me

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:17 PM CET reply actions  

Jonathan Viera shoots over in 24'

Still looks dangerous, just like last year. We have plenty of the ball though.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:25 PM CET reply actions  

near disaster there

on that Las Palmas break, as no one picked up the player on the right—but the pass was bad

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:30 PM CET reply actions  

1-0 31'

It was coming. Javi Guerrero pushes in a corner. Again our set-piece defending.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:33 PM CET reply actions  

He was in the goal, practically

When he tapped it in unmarked. May have reached him on the back post from our defender. Poor, as always.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM CET up reply actions  

To reveal an inner shirt

Dedicated to his dying father? Classy, per the rules.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:35 PM CET up reply actions  

was that what it was?

i was dealing with stream issues and didn’t get a good look at it

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:37 PM CET reply actions  

wow, Gullon is treading on thin ice here

that could have easily been a second yellow

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:37 PM CET reply actions  

2-0 Viera from free kick

well taken but again, from a set piece….

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM CET reply actions  

2-0 38' Viera (FK)

Golazo by our killer. Might be game over already.

Needed that chance that Joselu did not bury…

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:40 PM CET reply actions  

very unimpressive first half from VCF B

Castellani’s free kick summed it up, very poor and right to the keeper

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 9:47 PM CET reply actions  

HT 2-0

I don’t see a way back. But I’d be glad to be wrong.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 9:48 PM CET reply actions  

I thought that we got some decent crosses into the box and were recuperating the ball well in midfield but then gave up two goals from set pieces. Since then we’ve looked poor.
They have a rookie keeper, in for our former player Barbosa, and we failed to get the ball up to Airam and Joselu to test him.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 9:53 PM CET up reply actions  

only 3 shots

Airam and Joselu haven’t had much help. I suggest Porcar or someone like that to try and change things

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:01 PM CET reply actions  

Yellow card

for Marino before we’ve kicked off.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 10:02 PM CET reply actions  

not sure what Marino was complaining about

perhaps Las Palmas getting lots of calls for fouls? but he got a yellow at the end of the half for it.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:02 PM CET reply actions  

Toribio and Thiago Dutra!!

Castellani and Gullon off

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:04 PM CET reply actions  

Both Castellani and Gullon seemed a little disenchanted tonight and both picked up yellows.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 10:07 PM CET up reply actions  

yes, they were both players I would have pulled off

not sure if it was the long trip or what but our body language hasn’t loked good—we don’t seem to have much intensity. It’s starting to remind me of some of the displays last year under Javi Gracia, and that is not a good thing

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 PM CET reply actions  

Yep, Molina in trouble now.

On the crosses, Kenez, I agree that the wingbacks do better than those of the A team. But they were almost a bit too fast. Scares the keeper, at least.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 10:13 PM CET reply actions  

3-0 56' Portillo

Now it’s finished. From a Viera pass. Between Marino’s legs on a 1v1. Yikes.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 10:14 PM CET reply actions  

this is ugly.

And the problem is last year when we lost 3-0 here I thought Las Palmas were going to be one of the better teams in the division. I don’t see that this year, but we’re still getting killed.
Has anyone heard anything else about Chiqui Guerrero? He tweeted he wanted to go back to Ecuador and play there, I don’t know if he is still on the B roster or not.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 PM CET reply actions  

I want Jonathan Viera.

Make him our winter transfer window purchase. Then we’d buy another 3 points for the B team also in the return leg.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 10:27 PM CET reply actions  

you can tell Dutra has hardly played this year

he’s not reading where the front players want the ball

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:28 PM CET reply actions  

Never rated him. At the moment Las Palmas are pressing and getting five or six players round the ball denying spaces to pass the ball. We need to be a little more direct.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 10:30 PM CET up reply actions  

no, I haven’t either. Could we get a cross or corner somewhere close to the desired target? Really poor tonight.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:32 PM CET up reply actions  

But he was brought in

To be a Marcos Senna type. Meaning to sit back in the doble pivote, not necessarily to make the incisive pass.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 PM CET up reply actions  

he's a native of Las Palmas, incidentally

and came up through their ranks. We could do worse

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:30 PM CET reply actions  

Iriome for Airam

who was quiet tonight

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 PM CET reply actions  

Subbing the two former Tenerife players

A nice touch to piss off the happy home fans.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 10:34 PM CET up reply actions  

3-1

Dutra from a corner kick, and their keeper is down. Did he hit the goalpost or something?

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 PM CET reply actions  

LLORENTE

not Dutra, commentator got it wrong. I could not believe that it was Dutra.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 PM CET reply actions  

Okay. That makes sense.

I must confess I was not keeping a close eye on it.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:47 PM CET up reply actions  

wow, how did we miss that?

mind you, I thought it was offside.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM CET reply actions  

3-1 FT to the home team

disappointing performance by the B team, things do not seem well. Expect pressure on Molina to build

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 PM CET reply actions  

One of the poorest shows since Molina took over. The double change at half time did not improve things.Need to improve things quickly.

by Kenez on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 PM CET up reply actions  

FT 3-1

Dark days ahead for Molina. This team needs to improve and fast.

The best solution: have the A team get back on its feet. Then the B team can be at full strength and move forward.

Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!

by siempre_riquelme on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 PM CET reply actions  

yes indeed

I thought both Joselu and Gullon showed the effects of the A/B yo-yo.

Our pessimism on the latest podcast regarding this match was well founded; here’s hoping our optimism about the Racing match tomorrow is equally well-placed.

Endavant Villarreal!!

by Allen Dodson on Dec 2, 2011 11:59 PM CET reply actions  

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