Perspectives on Our Plight
by siempre_riquelme on Oct 27, 2011 6:00 PM CEST
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Two views on Villarreal, the club we know and love. Take a look and share your thoughts below.
Bruno of notasdefutbol praises Sr. Roig for staying out of debt. Some Liga Justa discussion as well, noting the departure of Juan Mata from third-placed Valencia.
With our tough situation in European competition and poor start in La Liga, the author suggests that we need to refocus and lower expectations. Similar to what the boss said in discussing the club's trajectory over the years.
Elena of mercafutbol takes a different approach, focusing on the players. She notes the sale of Santi Cazorla, heightened expectations for Cristián Zapata and Jonathan de Guzmán, and a general drop in performance.
The defense is old (Carlos Marchena), hobbled (Gonzalo Rodríguez), and untested (José Manuel Catalá, Mario Gaspar, Joan Oriol). In the midfield, we are playing below par (Borja Valero), while the attackers are injured (Nilmar, Marco Ruben). The author also criticizes manager Juan Carlos Garrido for turning our team-- driven by the interiores-- into a counterattacking outfit. Expect changes at the helm, in the winter transfer window, or both.
Every time we play Real Madrid, more transfer targets are fingered. In addition to Borja and Cazorla, add Mateo Musacchio, Zapata, and even Nilmar. If only the world were a pot of gold.
Transfer rumor of the century: Villarreal will pay €15 million for a player I have never heard of. Now mind you, he sounds pretty good. But we don't have that kind of money to spend on Brazilian attacking midfielder Oscar from Internacional de Porto Alegre. Maybe we'll trade him for Nilmar.
Management's message to Garrido: our patience is finite. But Sr. Roig says that Saturday's visit of Rayo Vallecano is not a final. Famous last words?
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why dont think about wingers for width
After cazorla departure our play became narrow so why not bring a winger to replace cazorla instead of oscar we can have krasic or shaqiri in 15 m isnt this better and i think anyone of them can really replace cazorla right?
by mazen on Oct 27, 2011 6:17 PM CEST via iPhone app reply actions
Regarding Expectations
I guess we are really expecting too much from the players. Is it right to expect low this season – something like mid table or a probable Europa spot and build our team up for the coming years? I would say focus on De Guz and Nilmar and expect the departure of Rossi or even Bruno. Start building the youth and plan for the next season. What do you guys think about this suggestion?
by Sporting_Villarreal on Oct 27, 2011 6:31 PM CEST reply actions
I would be happy to finish 10th or better at this poitn
Assuming no Champions League qualification, holding on to Rossi might be a desperate dream.
The key for next year, in my mind, will be to hold on to (1) Bruno; (2) Borja; and (3) De Guzman. Our defense will need an overhaul, but hoping that for next year some of our young attacking talent (Joselu, Airam, possibly Bille) can join with Ruben and potentially Nilmar. As for bringing players in (as opposed to up from the B team), we need to get back to finding talent in South America, which carried us up to the level we expect to be at today.
Endavant Villarreal!
as far as points are concerned:
63 generally gets you into the Champions League, which would be 56 from our remaining 29 games. Not too likely.
Europa League qualification might be achieved with 58 or so, but we’d need 51 from 29 games to get there. Without Rossi and Nilmar, and given our form so far, does that seem possible? I’d like to think so, but I don’t.
Realistically, any sort of midtable finish and something we can build on for next year is going to have to be okay with me.
Endavant Villarreal!!
by Allen Dodson on Oct 27, 2011 8:03 PM CEST up reply actions
with Rossi out, we really have to just make it through this awful year
Garrido must feel like the gods are conspiring against us—I certainly do. No Nilmar and no Rossi.
Ironically, this may enable us to keep Rossi for another year regardless, since he is going to be out the rest of the season. It may also enable Garrido to keep his job in the near term, anyway, just because how can you blame him at this point.
So: do we play Camunas and Ruben? Joselu and Ruben? What about a 4-3-3 with Hernan Perez and Camunas up front with Ruben?
Endavant Villarreal!!
4-3-3
I would love to try Marco with Joselu and Hernan Perez, providing that they would have enough time to practice together beforehand.
My take on the Rossi injury
http://www.villarrealusa.com/2011/10/27/2518814/giuseppe-rossi-injury-six-months-torn-acl
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Oct 27, 2011 8:41 PM CEST reply actions
I thought about that
And don’t forget about Montero and Nicki Bille. But I believe they are all year-long loans. It would be entirely at the other club’s discretion.
So only if they aren’t playing much. And would we want them then?
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Oct 27, 2011 9:03 PM CEST up reply actions
More on Michel
He won’t pull out the rug from under Garrido. Nice of him.
http://www.marca.com/2011/10/27/futbol/equipos/villarreal/1319719586.html
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Oct 27, 2011 9:07 PM CEST reply actions
Interesting Perspectives but not quite what you said
Bruno praises Roig for not going crazy I.e.. spending loads of money to replace Cazorla, and speculates that the sale of Cazorla has affected the morale of the team, hence the poor performances. The other blogpost has a lot of small observations that don’t add up. Zapata and De Guzman clearly need time to adjust to their new team, the problem is that the squad is too small, so they have to play now when they still don’t fit in. In this respect Garrido and his coaches are not as good as Emery at Valencia, who has had to rebuild the squad after selling off important players for two seasons running. Even with Canales out and Isco Alarcon at Malaga, there are enough players in the squad so that Emery doesn’t have to call up anyone from Valencia B.
Jiwonsi, Valencia's BUDGET IS BIGGER!!
That’s why Los Che have a huge squad compared to ours!! You have a bigger fan base, a bigger stadium, more TV money (though like most teams except for the Big 2 you don’t have a shirt sponsor).
Where I wish we had someone like Emery is in coaching our defense. Valencia builds from the back, defends well, and we don’t. Yes, personnel is an issue, but so is coaching in my opinion.
Endavant Villarreal!!
Back in the drop zone
Just over two years later:
http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/villarreal-puestos-descenso-anos-despues/20111027dasdasftb_21/Tes?
Endavant, a triomfar, a guanyar Villarreal!
by siempre_riquelme on Oct 27, 2011 11:57 PM CEST reply actions
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