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Tuesday Morning Thoughts

I know this is a little haphazard, but it is quite early in the morning, and I am yet to have coffee....

I definitely never expected this season to end with me cheering for Sevilla in the Copa for a chance at anything worthwhile. That speaks volumes about where the club has come and gone over the last 12 months, from the hiring of Valverde to the complete loss of confidence throughout the season, to the dreadful away form. It has been a rough year.

I believe - and correct me if I am wrong - that there was still one other possibility at Europe, even were Atletico to win tomorrow, which disappeared yesterday. There were reports that Mallorca was facing potential relegation due to financial woes, and that it could not be qualified for Europe. That would have drawn us up into their European spot, I think. However, yesterday they managed to be granted a license to play in the Europa League, taking that unlikelihood off the table. I guess that would have been grasping at straws anyway. Kind of like the 2009-2010 season, eh?

One thing we learned, we have to revamp our defense. Javi Venta has played his last with Villarreal. Marcano could be on his way out. Diego Godin might be on his way to Italy. It is likely we have seen the last of Diego Lopez in yellow. These changes might be an opportunity at a fresh start, though. As Kenez pointed out, just since the arrival of Garrido, we have given up 27 goals away from home, a pretty incredible number. All of that being said, the club is rumored to be going after José Ángel, a fullback from Sporting Gijon. I know next to nothing about him, other than the fact that he is only 20. Does anyone else have any information on him, or the likelihood of this happening?

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Maddi says “I definitely never expected this season to end with me cheering for Sevilla in the Copa for a chance at anything worthwhile.”

It looks as though you will not be doing this. Despite assurances to the contrary the RFEF are now saying that 7th will not have a place in the Europa League.

http://www.as.com/futbol/equipo/Villarreal-19

by Kenez on May 18, 2010 5:44 PM CEST reply actions  

Wow, the LFP has kicked our ass this season. And not in a good way. This is just unbelievable.

by sidarth on May 19, 2010 2:08 AM CEST up reply actions  

They change the rules for a big team like Liverpool, but a team that really needs the money gets jobbed. To think what one penalty could have done for our season…we’ll never know.

by sidarth on May 19, 2010 2:10 AM CEST up reply actions  

Can’t say I’ve noticed José Ángel, although he’s played 1.006 minutes this season. He’s left footed so presumably would be a left back. Sporting have him under contract until 2014 with a clause of €18m.

I can’t see Villarreal paying out money for an understudy to Capdevila when they have Joan Oriol in the B team.

by Kenez on May 18, 2010 6:19 PM CEST reply actions  

It’s now confirmed that Joan Oriol will be with the 1st team next season.

http://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/noticia.asp?pkid=562603

by Kenez on May 20, 2010 8:51 AM CEST up reply actions  

Penalty ‘feints’ banned ahead of World Cup

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8690435.stm

Should not affect Villarreal as we don’t have penalties.

by Kenez on May 18, 2010 7:45 PM CEST reply actions  

hahaha but so true, but if g. rossi stays, he will have 2 change da way he does da spot kicks though

by jackson on May 18, 2010 8:14 PM CEST up reply actions  

correction, g.rossi style of pk still ok, he feints during run up to pk

Players who feint as they are about to take the kick will be shown a yellow card. However, feinting during the run-up will be allowed.

 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/05/18/penalty.feint.banned/index.html?section=si_latest#ixzz0oJ4UfcDM

by jackson on May 18, 2010 8:23 PM CEST up reply actions  

SI.com: Do you think the style of play in England suits you as compared to Spain?

Altidore: I actually really enjoyed England, I think it’s a great place to play. It’s tough not to call it the best league in the world at this point —
it has everything technically, tactically, physically, emotion, and excitement. If any player has the desire to be the best and perform on the biggest stage, then England’s a place that you have to go.

For me if I had a chance to go back, if the situation was right, I’d definitely explore that. But I’m also looking forward as well to going back to Villarreal, applying my trade there — they gave me this opportunity to begin with. Looking at this upcoming season, if I did have a chance to be with the Villarreal first team, I’d take it with both hands.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/jen_chang/05/14/altidore.qa

by jackson on May 18, 2010 8:13 PM CEST reply actions  

go sevilla

by jackson on May 18, 2010 8:24 PM CEST reply actions  

The season in review begins on the club website. Stay tuned for it on VillarrealUSA.

First up, penalties and red cards.

by sidarth on May 19, 2010 4:27 AM CEST reply actions  

how teh hell liverpool got entry after 2005 and along wit that there were 5 epl teams. but teh same situation with us but different outcome. uefa is a *.

by rahul on May 19, 2010 9:35 AM CEST reply actions  

wat u talking about

by jackson on May 20, 2010 1:21 AM CEST up reply actions  

don’t mess w/da french, they cheated way 2 wc 2010

by jackson on May 20, 2010 1:27 AM CEST up reply actions  

Sevilla 2-0 AM

europa 4 vcf.

by jackson on May 20, 2010 1:20 AM CEST reply actions  

well know i know wat rahul was talkiing about

Villarreal Will Not Compete In Europa League Regardless Of Copa del Rey Outcome

blame it on liga refs, valverde, on/off form of da players & vcf board

by jackson on May 20, 2010 1:25 AM CEST up reply actions  

Not a good week at Villarreal, out of Europe and now Diego Lopez, Senna and Cazorla all left out of Spain’s World Cup squad. Only Capdevila makes the 23.

by Kenez on May 20, 2010 4:43 PM CEST reply actions  

Here is the full roster:
GKs: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), José Manuel Reina (Liverpool), Víctor Valdés (Barcelona).
Ds: Joan Capdevila (Villarreal), Carles Puyol (Barcelona), Gerard Piqué (Barcelona), Raúl Albiol (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Álvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Carlos Marchena (Valencia).
MFs: Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Xavi Hernández (Barcelona), Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona), Cesc Fábregas (Arsenal), Javi Martínez (Athletic).
Fs: Jesús Navas (Sevilla), David Silva (Valencia), Juan Manuel Mata (Valencia), Fernando Torres (Liverpool), David Villa (Barcelona), Pedro Rodríguez (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic).

by sidarth on May 20, 2010 5:01 PM CEST up reply actions  

I am infuriated that Sergi Busquets, that no-good, talentless diver, made the roster instead of Cazorla or Senna. Boy, Spanish football sure is taking a whack at us while we are down. Have they so quickly forgotten how crucial those two were to winning Euro 2008? I guess we have Valverde to thank, in part.

Maybe this scheme is to force Villarreal to transfer its stars this offseason? Suppress their value and leave us with no choice or something.

by sidarth on May 20, 2010 5:04 PM CEST up reply actions  

cazorla
sad 4 him, he had regained form after back surgery, da bosque is a idiot
senna
still has class , but no longer a 90" player & da vcf midfield has average season so
got blamed 4 it. not suprised w/ommision
lopez
paid price 4 da backline, but da match v getafe & barca were da bosque was present hurt his chances. i rate lopez higher than valdes

bosque is tool of lfp, who w/it’s refs worked hard 2 deny pk all season 2 vcf.
so who going 2 tell, y da in spain da vcf was hated this season?

by jackson on May 20, 2010 5:28 PM CEST up reply actions  

And interesting to hear Garrido mention the club’s economic plight. Looks like they will continue the struggle with UEFA over the months ahead. The club returns to training on July 12.

by sidarth on May 20, 2010 5:09 PM CEST reply actions  

sidarth says:
May 20, 2010 at 10:04 am
I am infuriated that Sergi Busquets, that no-good, talentless diver, made the roster instead of Cazorla or Senna. Boy, Spanish football sure is taking a whack at us while we are down. Have they so quickly forgotten how crucial those two were to winning Euro 2008? I guess we have Valverde to thank, in part.

valverde, da worst hiring by da vcf board. hope u proud vcf board

facts r facts:
bosque is tool of lfp, leaving cazorla for tat biscuit is da joke

so who going 2 tell us, y in spain da vcf was hated this season?

by jackson on May 20, 2010 5:34 PM CEST reply actions  

don’t worry da spain will not win da wc.

by jackson on May 20, 2010 5:36 PM CEST reply actions  

hahahhahahha

Pires, 36, told the website of French newspaper L’Equipe that he would like to play in the United States
but did not think Philadelphia was charming enough for him and his family.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jzSTu-uCjPzRSf3H_JncZ-V7-_BQ

by jackson on May 20, 2010 5:52 PM CEST reply actions  

sad for Senna, Cazorla and especially Lopez, who with crappy defense did well.

Senna is > Busquet
Senna has class and played well in the last few games when called up on

Cazorla, his injury hurt his chances, he did disappear few times on his return from injury,
but was gaining form fast (paid the price for not moving to Real Madrid)

Lopez:, somtimes his poistioning on FK is just crap, but he is superior to Valdes.
Too bad his worst game v Getafe was when Bosque was in the stands and Villarreal lost 3-0

I agree w/Sid, in part it’s Valverde fault and in part its’ injury and form of club.

But, anyteam which goes from 20 to 7 must be doing something right?

Finally , Villarreal owners must be drinking Kool Aid when they hired Valverde who was
not in style what Villarreal is/was all about.

by Anonymous on May 21, 2010 6:28 AM CEST reply actions  

World Cup 2010: Spain Captain Iker Casillas Labels Victor Valdes Inclusion ‘A Wise Decision’
The captain believes the Catalan custodian is there on merit…

http://www.goal.com/en/news/140/world-cup-2010/2010/05/21/1934986/world-cup-2010-spain-captain-iker-casillas-labels-victor

I would loved to have seen Valdes play behind Villarreal defense?
I bet he concedes more than 57 goals

I
P.S let’s if the Spain can win the Title without the Best player of Euro 2008 (Brazilian Born SeNna)

by Anonymous on May 21, 2010 6:39 AM CEST reply actions  

Blah blah blah Marcos Senna didn’t make the cut. What’s more amazing is that a player of Senna’s talent never even got close to making the brazilian squad. Why? Because Brazil could field FIVE TEAMS with players as talented as Senna, all capable of winning WC2010. Go Brazil!!!

by MCA on May 21, 2010 4:08 PM CEST reply actions  

Check out La Liga Loca for a good explanation of the squad selection, Del Bosque went with the form players (eg Javi Martinez) so we can’t really complain! Disappointing for the lads but on the plus (and selfish) side it gives them a break and keeps them out of the worlds largest shop window!

by Nick on May 21, 2010 5:26 PM CEST reply actions  

who cares wat da La Liga Loca thinks?
let poster have there say.
y r u so anti -expression
2 say valvdes is better then lopez, just shows u didn’t watch much vcf matches & u don’t care, because tat’s da s da media choice. form my a$$

da people here have a right 2 complain, if u don’t want 2 compalin then tat’s fine.
but don’t say “so we can’t really complain”
let posters express themselves & sorry u don’t speak 4 me or other here.

by jackson on May 21, 2010 5:49 PM CEST up reply actions  

Jackson, you are insane!! I have never come across a more paranoid person in my life! "so we can’t really complain" is an expression. It is not a direct order for everyone to silence everyone. Surely I should be allowed to post my thoughts too? Yes I do think Valdes was better than Lopez this season, he was the goalkeeper in the best team in La Liga, he didn’t make any horrendous blunders this season. The amount of times we have questioned Lopez’s positioning this year, he has not had his best season.
 I care what La Liga Loca thinks, perhaps other people do too. I have never attempted to, nor will I ever attempt to speak for you Jackson, you have a way of putting it yourself that is truly unique.

by Nick on May 21, 2010 6:36 PM CEST reply actions  

In support of Jackson

Sorry, but it is OUTRAGES that a poster (jackson) is personally insulted by a mod here.
Nick, you are out of control !

As I recall, this is not the first time Nick has done this, you have called people who dis agree with your understanding of games etc.

1) Vultures
2) Crazy
3) Insane

You statement "so we can’t really complain"
clearly implies that other who come here are are not entitled to their opinions

GET A GRIP of yourself, this is not A BRITISH PUB where you mouth off Personal Insults to
guest here and Learn some manners.

by In support of Jackson on May 22, 2010 4:16 AM CEST reply actions  

In support of Jackson

Sorry, but it is OUTRAGES that a poster (jackson) is personally insulted by a mod here.
Nick, you are out of control !

As I recall, this is not the first time Nick has done this, you have called people who dis agree with your understanding of games etc.

1) Vultures
2) Crazy
3) Insane
4) Paranoid

You statement "so we can’t really complain"
I ageee it means (we = psoters and mods here)

GET A GRIP of yourself, this is not A BRITISH PUB where you mouth off Personal Insults to
guest here and Learn some manners.

This site owes an apology to jackson, he has never insulted anyone here.
But I doubt we will hear any apology here.

by In support of jackson on May 22, 2010 4:24 AM CEST reply actions  

Look, everyone. I started this site two years ago, and it gets a little old reading these personal squabbles. EVERYONE is allowed their opinion. That means Jackson. That also means Nick. Neither Nick nor anyone else is under a special duty to anyone here. This is the internet. People have opinions. People are allowed to express them. Everyone needs to quit being so quick to take offense at people’s opinions.

maddi

by maddi on May 22, 2010 4:26 AM CEST reply actions  

nick
Jackson, you are insane!! I have never come across a more paranoid person in my life! "

In support of jackson says
- This site owes an apology to jackson, he has never insulted anyone here.
But I doubt we will hear any apology here

People have right opinion, but don’t be suprised to be called one of the following
by Noc

1) Vulture
2) Crazy
3) Insane
4) Paranoid
etc

by In support of jackson says on May 22, 2010 6:57 AM CEST reply actions  

Whoever is posting under created names, quit stirring this pot. No one is getting apologies from anyone.

And seriously – if you have something to say, be straightforward enough to put it under your real name. I really do not have the time or energy to moderate comments, and I really do not want to have to require that people sign in to leave a comment. But if you don’t use your actual screen name, and the content of your post is a petty squabble, then I am going to start deleting them.

Perhaps we could talk about futbol here?

by maddi on May 22, 2010 11:45 AM CEST reply actions  

Nick says:
May 21, 2010 at 11:36 am
Jackson, you are insane!! I have never come across a more paranoid person in my life!

Maddi says:
May 22, 2010 at 4:45 am
 No one is getting apologies from anyone.

Too bad you condone personal insults by your mod.

Nick says:
May 22, 2010 at 4:48 am
Note : I am not British!!
You can expect my apology in the post.;)

Sorry to have called you British then, you showed more class than maddi.
Sometimes in life you learn a lot of a person in these situations.
That’s all from me on this topic
Cheers :)

by In support of no insults from mods on May 22, 2010 8:33 PM CEST up reply actions  

Note : I am not British!!
You can expect my apology in the post.;)

In other news see if you guys can spot Nilmar in the new Nike ad, one of their best yet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE
Think I spotted Tim Howard in it too!

by Nick on May 22, 2010 11:48 AM CEST reply actions  

Nick says:
May 21, 2010 at 11:36 am
Jackson, you are insane!! I have never come across a more paranoid person in my life!

@ nick
tat was an awaful thing u said 2 me. it’s reflects poorly on who u r, not me.

@ in support of
thanks 4 da support. but it’s best 2 ignore stupid comments

by jackson on May 24, 2010 5:30 PM CEST reply actions  

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